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Is There a Line Between Founder Optimism and Delusion?

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Startup Therapy Podcast

The "No BS" version of how startups are really built, taught by actual startup Founders who have lived through all of it.


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Wil Schroter

Founder + CEO, Startups.com

Wil is a serial Founder having launched 9 companies over 25+ years, 3 being venture funded and 4 having been sold. He generally argues that Founders need to take a much different view of how to build startups.

Ryan Rutan

Founding Partner + CMO, Startups.com

Ryan is a serial founder with 5 companies spanning 3 continents, 20 years and 2 exits. He generally argues with Wil.


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Episode 319

November 3, 2025

Prioritize Productivity Over Popularity

Treating visibility as progress is basically doing victory laps before you’ve even built the track.